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Hi, Kimo - am greeting the developments related to H-50 2.0 with a certain degree of guarded curiosity; as a diehard LOST fan the news of Daniel Dae Kim being cast as Chin Ho leaves me a bit ambivalent - Kam had a certain avuncular - and undeniably Hawai'ian - vibe that I really appreciated, and much as I've loved his work as Jin, Daniel really doesn't; still a bit too young, for one thing.....Alex O'Loughlin strikes me as an odd choice (what IS it with the swell of Australian actors lately? That said, Karl Urban absolutely NAILED what a younger Leonard McCoy would've been like in Star Trek.....) It's a daunting, if not downright impossible, task: who acting today compares to Jack Lord in demeanor and appearance? I can't think of a single one.....

A question: when Ed was sounding out the fans for input, one recommendation I made was to use Gary Hoey's version of the theme song as it rocks unbelievably hard and incorporates the Season Eight-Twelve rave-up outro intro, might resonate a lot more with younger generations. Do you have any idea what the producer's plans are for this version's theme? Thanks

James
James Cayon
Easthampton, MA United States - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 20:11:21 (PST)
Pam, I believe I read recently that Wo Fat won't be back. Chances are, he's still cooling his heels in Leavenworth. LOL. They will have a new international villain, but I don't know how much information has come down about him, yet.

Mike, that picture is awful! It looks like somebody drew a caricature of Jack and computer enhanced it - someone with even worse computer skills than my own, I might add.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 12:24:52 (PST)
I am an absolute fan of the series due to the gorgeous (and still cuddly)James MacArthur, although I wasn't to keen on him being replaced by Williams Smith. I watched it from the very first episode and so far have up to Series 6
of the boxed sets, only 6 more to go.

In the new series I hope that they will give James MacArthur a cameo role at least, or how about the the Governor's job, he's done it before.

Please note, who-ever they cast in the roles of Steve McGarrett and Danny Williams have a lot of work in front of them to be as good as their predessors.

I have read today that Daniel Dae Kim will be playing Chin Ho Kelly, I reckon that's a good choice, please note that to me, whoever is chosen to play 'Danno' will never be a patch on James MacArthur.

I can't wait to see who they cast as Wo Fat!

Pam
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk England - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 11:39:32 (PST)
There is something weird about this shot of Jack Lord on the cover of the season 8 box set, due next month. I'm not talking about the uncharacteristic smile. It looks like Lord's head as been vertically compressed a bit ... and maybe even horizontally expanded. What season or show is this from? It is very strange ... not even like Jack Lord! Go to amazon.com (http://tinyurl.com/ykvzpll) and look at the blown-up version of the cover. This looks more like Monte Markham!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 11:04:23 (PST)
Mercedes is definitely the car of villains. A classic example is the film Goldfinger, which I saw four times in theatre when it first came out. There is a scene where these bad guys are chasing James Bond in a black Mercedes, and it goes out of control and plunges over a cliff, bursting into flames.

Here are some more Five-O Mercedes:

#84. Nine, Ten -- You're Dead -- When Edmonds (Albert Paulson, a slimy mob boss) and the young blonde-haired hitman are tracking down Stone, they are driving a Mercedes, which seems unusual for what is probably a rental car.

#146. A Hawaiian Nightmare -- Bernard Brown (James Olson), the guy threatening to cause lava to flow over Hilo, lives in a fancy house and owns a Mercedes convertible

#149. Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb? -- Senator Henderson drives a black Mercedes convertible, license number 2F-2754.

#155. Welcome to Our Branch Office -- Doug Mossman's car, a yellow Mercedes convertible (license number 2F-4323) looks like the one driven by William Windom in #149 (but the color is different).
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 10:56:47 (PST)
i say this sincerely, you are a good writer as evident from your website and i can only imagine your scripts would be as compelling. Don't lose hope, always do your best to network and hob nob with the right crowd. We do need a channel similar to Sundance that recognizzes new creative sparks.

I still feel that Chin Ho needs to be a little more heavy-maybe he lets himself go over the course of the series..haha
KD MCg
Hawaii, Five 0ooh - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 10:27:54 (PST)
Re: "Seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt."

And, yet, there are many unknown writers out there (myself included), who would love to have a chance to be noticed. But we are small fish in a frightfully big pond. Only a few even get to be considered by the Big Boys, be they the studios or the major publishers. The rest of us self-publish, and there's no like equivalent for scriptwriters.

The cable networks have founded their own niche of writers, younger, fresher writers, who still have new ideas. And, yet, once again, there are many unknown writers...

Re: Alex O'Loughlin... Negotiations are always dicey. Just look how quickly a deal can fall apart when we are buying or selling a car or a house.

Re: The alleged new Chin Ho. I've never seen him act, but he could carry it off as far as appearance goes. I wonder if this Chin Ho will be the easy-going family man that OUR Chin Ho was???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 10:13:13 (PST)
The fact that things are being remade suhc as Rockford Files, Teen Wolf, Nikita etc. is a damning indictment in my opinion that writers cannot come up with original concepts anymore. They are remaking Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Spider Man etc. Seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.

i think the cable channels fare better in the originality stakes. Shows suich as burn Notice that are filmed locally in Florida seem to be doing reallly well. i am all for cable productions.

My comment re: Dae Kim. He is 42 so should be okay for their vision.
KD MCg
Tampa, Fl U S A ! - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:19:37 (PST)
Reverse casting. He does look tenacious and steeely eyed Mike...you are absolutely right good one!!
KD MCG
Hawaii, ooo ooooo - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:08:27 (PST)
Is Daniel in his fifties? I am quite sure not.


[CHIN HO KELLY] A tough, capable Asian man in his 50s, he's a 20 year veteran of the Honolulu police force who was a close friend of McGarrett's cop dad. However, Chin was recently drummed out of the department for accepting payoffs, even though he was completely innocent of all charges. Now a security officer in Pearl Harbor, he's grateful to McGarrett for offering him the chance to clear his name and get back into active duty. A savvy guy with a lot of connections on the island, Chin also becomes a crucial member of McGarrett's federal task force sptv050769...SERIES REGULAR (14)
KD MCg
thats, very strange - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:01:24 (PST)
Yes, indeed. I just learned Alex is toying with an ABC series and one another as well. He is actually a quite fascinating guy. The way CBS had toyed with him, he is probably very reticent right now.

I belive on his myspace page he says he doesn't want to do something for the sake of doing it, but because it is meaningful. i am surprised the cast listing says that he has confirmed when he has not.
KD MCg
Hawaii, Five O - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 08:43:18 (PST)
Hmmm, I just had a "brainstorm": in a reversal of typical casting seen in the original Five-O, maybe Daniel Dae Kim should play (the white) McGarrett! (ha ha)
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 08:12:38 (PST)
According to this article, Alex O'Loughlin is not definite for Steve McGarrett:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i4f6b8b7378b9d594108d6f2921b35012

'Lost' actor joins 'Hawaii Five-O'
Daniel Dae Kim tapped for a lead role in CBS' remake

By Nellie Andreeva

"Lost's" Daniel Dae Kim is staying in Hawaii with a lead role on CBS' "Hawaii Five-0" remake.

In CBS' updated take on the classic cop series, from CBS Studios, Kim will play Detective Chin Ho Kelly, a role played in the original series by Kam Fong.

The part of Detective Steve McGarrett has not yet been cast, though "Moonlight" star Alex O'Loughlin continues to be in talks for it.

The new "Hawaii Five-0" hails from hot feature writers and "Fringe" co-creators Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci and "CSI: NY" executive producer/co-showrunner Peter Lenkov.

Kim, who played Jin Kwon on "Lost" for its six-season run, is the first actor from the show's core cast to book a new series project this pilot season as the ABC mystery drama heads to its May finale.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 06:39:22 (PST)
Mr. Mike, I agree with your assessment of the time problem with today's TV shows. Advertising is king on the airwaves. I have never watched an episode of Criminal Minds, but I can imagine what it is like. I have been watching old 80's TV shows on Hulu recently and even back then they still had 48-50 minutes to do an episode.

So Daniel Dae Kim has been cast as Chin Ho? At least he won't have to move from Hawaii. I think that is actually an interesting choice. Back in the 90's when discussions over the H5-O newsboard used to include "who would you cast as ...", I thought about what would happen if Chin Ho were more of a younger guy. The actor I thought of at that time was Jason Scott Lee, partly because he was from Hawaii.
Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 06:06:57 (PST)
TV shows try to cram more plot into less time, and the result is stories that move at the pace of a bullet train, and not very thoughtfully, at least for the most part. I read that free TV will be a thing of a past in the near future, that everyone will have to have cable or satellite TV to even watch the tube, how this will affect advertising and hence the length of programs, I don't know, but it would be nice if it lengthened the running times. HBO's The Sopranos was interesting, there was no set time for each episode, they ran anywhere from forty-five minutes to over an hour. Is that the future for TV in general? We'll see.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 05:22:41 (PST)
So, there's the new Chin Ho: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=63106
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 04:39:53 (PST)
Speaking of cars...

Not only do I cringe because of the bad translation each time I watch "Nine Dragons", I also chuckle each time when
Steve is met by the phony Hong Kong police officers at the
airport.
That's so because YEARS ago I read somewhere, that the bad
guy in US movies and TV shows can be easily spotted because
he drives a Mercedes.So, are there bad guys in Five-0 that
drive a Mercedes? Yes, there are. So far I've come up
with the following episodes:

"Nine Dragons" "A Gun for McGarrett" "Vashon Part 1"
"The Twofaced Corpse" "Highest Castle Deepest Grave"
"Twenty Four Karat Kill".
Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 22:55:30 (PST)
When I've said that they don't build cars like McG's Mercury today, it wasn't because I would like to drive one,
I'm very happy with my small Toyota.
But on the streets (and in contemporary movies or TV shows)
you can't nearly tell one make of car from the other.McG's
car is just a sight for sore eyes and combined with the deep rumbling sound of its engine...well.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 22:40:07 (PST)
Actually, SG, you still can get a big, black Mercury. The Marquis is still manufactured under the "Grand Marquis" name. Although it is not as large McGarrett's '74 model, it is pretty much the largest car on the road today, as far as sedans go. I have a Grand Marquis (not black) but absolutely hate it! Although it is comfortable on long trips, it is a lumbering log wagon to drive. On the highway, it gets about 27 mpg, but in town, it guzzles the petrol. I imagine that, as soon as this move is behind us, my husband will trade it in on something he likes. I'm happy with my '96 Volvo 850.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 16:17:56 (PST)
"You wouldn't see a TV show do that today."

Watched "Gran Torin" with Clint Eastwood last night- wow, what a car. And immetiately afterwards a Five-0 episode-
THE big black Mercury-again, wow, what a car!
You surely won't see cars like these in a TV show today;
they don't build cars like these anymore.
So-what else won't they do in TV shows today? A lot,I'm
afraid.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 13:35:28 (PST)
I just watched "Right Grave, Wrong Body" and noticed how they took the time with the Identi-Kit scenes; possible product placement aside (as Mr. Mike noted in his review), they "took the time." Season 1's "And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin" is another example of taking the time - in this case, Steve and HPD going through the apartment of the kid Danny shot. You wouldn't see a TV show do that today.

And Mr. Mike - we're just wrapping up the Super Bowl, so it's just a two-week countdown for your Olympics experience to be over. :)
Sylvia
Pembroke Pines (close to Super Bowl Town), FL USA - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 10:20:41 (PST)
Please forgive my ignorance, Mike, but I can't find Olympicouver on my map. Can you tell me where it is? Seriously, that's good! Have fun hiding out from the tourists.

Re: the time limitations, I agree. It takes time to build a plot and then to resolve it. Surely, the studios, producers, and others have told the FCC as much. Why won't anyone listen to reason? Surely, there has to be more to life, including television, than money.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 09:39:47 (PST)
The guys making this new show have a real serious problem to overcome -- the fact that they only have 42 minutes (including beginning and end titles) to play around with, unlike the old days, where Five-O was usually over 50 minutes, and sometimes even over 51.

If you ever saw any of the Five-O Family Channel episodes, you will know what I am talking about. Most of those shows were severely edited so in many cases, the plot didn't even make sense. (See this WWW page if you want more specific details: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/famchan-analysis.htm)

I recently was watching the Alex O'Loughlin episode of Criminal Minds, where he plays this twitchy killer who has OCD. You think that there are a lot of "brainstorms" on Five-O; they are nothing compared to Criminal Minds (at least based on this show), which had a slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am kind of plot development.

Alas, this is all too typical of TV shows today...
Mr. Mike
Olympicouver, BC Canada - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 08:18:49 (PST)
I also think Hal Blaine played drums on the original, he played on Ventures records. But it is possible... the musicians changed over the years so the DJ was old enough to have played on the later seasons.

Carol Kaye was the bass player on the theme and soundtracks until 1974. Her bass playing during the shows was something to behold...


Hans
Boston, MA USA - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 07:43:22 (PST)
I seriously doubt this guy Dote was playing the drums for Morton Stevens at age 13. It was probably some Hollywood studio musician like Hal Blaine. The link on Dote's own WWW site to a YouTube video of him playing this theme does not work because the video has reportedly been removed by him, BTW.
Monsieur Mike
"The whole world is watching" Vancouver, BC Vancouver - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 01:26:24 (PST)
Does anyone know who the studio musician is who played the drums on the title theme song? A local DJ by the name of John Dote writes long websites saying that he played the drums for this song. He is 55 years old now, but that would have made him 13 years old when the theme and show were released. Did a 13 year old boy really play the drums on this theme?
Stormy
Las Vegas, NV USA - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 20:02:09 (PST)
Nice save Mike! ...Over a billion dollars in security costs. Do they have you locked in your homes?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 08:19:34 (PST)
The reason the link to Amazon was screwy was because they had TWO links to two different pages. They finally disabled one of these (the one I was linking to). This is a common problem with Amazon, where you can search for something and find multiple pages for the same book, CD or DVD. For example, go to Amazon and search for the book Monsters of the Moors by Potter. You will find four different listings for this book, all with different prices, because each listing was created in a slightly different way. I'd sure hate to be an Amazon customer who ordered something and paid a very high price, and then returned to the site and found there was a cheaper priced item listed because of this screwy way of displaying things for sale.

On another note, the Guestbook page was down for a bit since I was making some changes and totally wiped out all the postings since February 01 at 17:37:20 (PST). Fortunately, my crappy cel phone (which I mostly hate) had a cached copy of this page up to the most recent posting and I was able to cut and paste the text from this page and send it to myself (this was a very hairy procedure), then reconstruct the postings for the last 5 days.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, Olympics Town (UGH), BC Canada - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 07:54:19 (PST)
I was watching the episode, "Tricks Are Not Treats" from Season Six last night and it got me wondering: How is Hotel Street these days? I remember when I was in Hawaii many years ago, I do remember hearing over there that they did "Clean it up", but I did not see it for myself...any comments?..thanks...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 19:13:08 (PST)
UPDATE: you can order it at Amazon - Mike just needs to update his pre-order link to Amazon...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 19:03:30 (PST)
It looks like you can't order Season Eight right now at Amazon.com - I hope there is not a problem with this release - however, when I checked my account over there, I'm still in the que to get it when it's released...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 18:32:01 (PST)
I loved Magnum P.I., but I think it was apples and oranges compared to Hawaii Five-0. I don't think Magnum ever made use of the land and the people like H 5-0. Except when Magnum rhapsodized about Hawaiian sunrises, and the shots of the estate, it could have been filmed anywhere. It didn't make as much use of local actors and people like H 5-0.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 13:34:31 (PST)
"Plus I always found Magnum to be incredibly whiny - especially when he constantly squabbled with Higgins! " ....I would ROFLMAO when he (Magnum) got on Higgins last nerve. MAGNUM, WHAT IN GOD'S NAME ARE YOU DOING??!!
Big H
Rainy Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 13:19:11 (PST)
Yeah, Hall & Oates were great! "Kiss on My List" just played on the radio. And you gotta love Laura Branigan's "Self Control" and it was a Knight Rider episode that introduced me to that song! As for "Magnum"...meh... didn't really care for it. Had a cool theme song and a cool car but that's about it. Its pace was too lethargic, too laid-back for my tastes. I wanted some urgency, some excitement. Plus I always found Magnum to be incredibly whiny - especially when he constantly squabbled with Higgins! It's like.. oh grow up already, dude! That actually to me is a perfect example of unnecessary 80s cheese.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 11:34:25 (PST)
Wow, you guys are good, but actually the one that I saw (but didn't remember) was in Vashon: The Father! At the end, Hayward says, "McG, let's make a deal...give me a light sentence and I'll give you the name." But Mcg, instead of yelling, "NO DEALS!!", rebuffs Hayward saying...."I already know the name." So the "deal" McG finally offered was ....maximum security Federal prison under an unidentified name so Vashon couldn't find Hayward and have him whacked. Yeah, I don't consider letting Wo Fat go for the hostage pilot an official deal by McG...McKaye forced his hand on that one. To Ringfire....ok ...ALL of the 80s didn't suck. We had Magnum and Hall & Oates.....that was about it (IMO). LOL, I still listen to H&O sometimes....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 11:05:09 (PST)
Re: "I guess that only applies to the Joseph Sirola version of Jonathan Kaye." - - - I agree. I despise Joseph Sirola's JK. Typical Washington bureaucrat. Aargh!!!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 08:55:37 (PST)
I guess that only applies to the Joseph Sirola version of Jonathan Kaye. Even in "Three Dead Cows" he was more concerned about retrieving the virus rather than destroying it. Bill Edwards and Tim O'Connor seemed to be more humane/friendly as Kaye.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 07:27:04 (PST)
"...wasn't too happy about that one"? LOL As I recall, he was mad enough to dismember Jonathan Kaye limb by limb. At times, I wished he would have dismembered Jonathan Kaye limb by limb. Oh! What an ego! In "FOB Honolulu," for example. McGarrett got the plates back for him, and the man didn't even thank him. Just sat there with a self-satisfied smile on his face as though he had found the plates, himself!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 14:05:12 (PST)
Ha!... "You play chess? ..."A trade" ..."Professor Lochner live and unharmed for your free passage" ...The first meeting of McG and WF since 'Cocoon' and I believe the only semi civilized episode conclusion between the two. There was the time WF was traded for the U2 pilot but McG wasn't too happy about that one.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 12:43:22 (PST)
40 Feet High and It Kills, McGarrett makes a deal with the Fatster. Is that what you're referring to?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:43:24 (PST)
Sorry, Big H. But that's what makes the 80s so AWESOME!! It was all so bad that is was actually good! TV, movies, music - everything! There's no recapturing that magic! And why the heck would you want KITT to have a wicked voice? That's what KARR was for. Voiced by Peter Cullen and Paul Frees. Frees especially was great - giving the HAL-1000 a run for its money! Great eerie voice! But William Daniels was just perfect as the voice of KITT - his prissy demeanor was spot-on! I'm just glad we had a decade like the 80s where all of TV wasn't angst-driven. But that the name of the game back then was FUN!! Just kick and back and relax... and turn off your brain... sometimes it's a welcome change.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:28:56 (PST)
"Knight Rider was vintage 80s TV show - 80s at its absolute best! Unless you're talking about the remake. Same with Charlie's Angels - classic 70s! Unless you're talking about the movie remake. As for T.J. Hooker - again another 80s classic from THE SHAT!" Ringfire, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but....everything from the 80s sucked ....TV and pop/rock music. We just didn't know it was that bad b/c that's all there was to look at/listen to. [And what is it with William Daniels as the "voice" of the Firebird?!?!? He sounds like a wimp....jeez, get somebody that at least sounds intimidating and wicked.] Glad I was in college during part of the 80s so I didn't miss much. (changing gears) Hey, a trivia question for youse guys...I was watching an old eppie last night and at the end McG actually MADE A DEAL with the crook/villain!!! (You know our McG is Mr. No Deals) I almost fell off the couch b/c I really didn't remember it happening at all, and I've seen this ep a lot. Do you guys remember the ep AND the deal that was made?? (I expect Rick to get this first b/c I theorize he has some wicked H50 1.0 homemade database on his box that he can access at will...he comes up with everything FAST...)
Big H
Raleigh, NC - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:01:50 (PST)
"Why wouldn't Cook be identified by his own name in the end credits of the Five-O episode if it was?" - Correct, Mr. Mike. Furthermore why would a different actor be credited in Cook's place? lol...doesn't make sense. I understand that there are rare times when an actor (even a fairly prominent one) may choose to go uncredited on-screen for whatever reason. But they certainly would never go ahead and credit someone else with playing the part. And at the end of this particular Five-0 episode it clearly says "John Howard as O'Hara". So, yeah, case closed.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 08:19:16 (PST)
Elisha Cook, Jr. appeared in several episodes of Magnum, P.I. in the 1980s. It shouldn't be too difficult to check these episodes and confirm that the part in Hawaii Five-O was NOT played by him. Why wouldn't Cook be identified by his own name in the end credits of the Five-O episode if it was?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 15:10:21 (PST)
If the BBFC pass all 23 eighth season episodes and any possible Jack Lord episodic promos before May, then season eight will definitely be coming out in May (as stated on Amazon.co.uk and Play.com)..and I will be chuffed (pleased), because in the UK we'll get the 7th and 8th seasons in the space of seven weeks (the seventh season on 22nd March and the eighth season on 10th May).

Regarding the Jack Lord episodic promos, if there aren't episodic promos for all 23 episodes from season eight I hope there will be one included for (some of these I've seen, some have interesting sounding episode titles, and some I've read about in the Epi-Log issue featuring Hawaii Five-O, and the Karen Rhodes book)...

"Murder - Eyes Only" (because it may have a longer episodic promo because it's the first episode since the pilot movie Cocoon to be a feature length episode, and the first season DVD set had no episodic promos at all on it, including for the pilot. Also two of my favourite TV and film actors, Harry Guardino and Lloyd Bochner guest starred)

"Termination with Extreme Prejudice" (guest starring Dan O'Herlihy who was in two of my favourite films from the 1980's, Halloween III: Season of the Witch and Robocop. He also appeared in a one season only series called Whiz Kids, which I hope makes it onto DVD one day, because one episode had Jameson Parker from Simon & Simon guest starring as his character AJ Simon)

"Target? The Lady"
"Death's Name is Sam"
and "How to Steal a Submarine".
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 14:01:27 (PST)

"The entry for season five, show 117, should be corrected accordingly." -- There's nothing to correct there. Elisha Cook, Jr. ("Ice Pick" on Magnum PI) never guest-starred on Five-0. That was actor John Howard who played O'Hara at the beginning in "Percentage". Here is the IMDB cast list for that episode: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598119/fullcredits#cast. Like Cook, Howard was also a popular character actor back in the 40s. He was in "The Philadelphia Story", among many other films.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 12:43:18 (PST)
I'm positive that the character "O'Hara," seen at the beginning of show no. 117, "Percentage," is played by Elisha Cook, Jr. Cook played Wilmer, the "Gunzel," in the movie "The Maltese Falcon," and also had bit parts in the original "Perry Mason" TV series and elsewhere. I'd know that voice and face anywhere, even though he had aged a bit by 1973!

The entry for season five, show 117, should be corrected accordingly.
Henry Schmidt
Allentown, PA United States - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 12:10:24 (PST)

I did get the chance to see the first, second and third season later on as a young adult. I thought the Hawaii five-o show was authentic, interesting, precious and a never a dull moment kind of stuff. This is what happy dreams are made of! I think o'laughlin may not be the ideal specimen for this lead role I think you may want someone who gives out intelligence, cool, sensuality and skills to fit the breathtakingly handsome part of dear Jack lord. Wow! Icannot believe I said that. Good LUck!
Gina Thomas
Glen Oaks, N.Y Queens - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 11:57:56 (PST)
I don't know if I'll have time to watch an episode today, but go ahead and surprise me, H50, watch an episode and write about it if you feel like it, and if I have anything relevant to add(a big if), I will.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 11:48:18 (PST)
I'm with you and Wavecrest, Chris, although my crack about snow in Hawai`i didn't cause so much as a ripple. What from H50 1.0, Season 7, shall we watch today, gentlemen?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 11:15:05 (PST)
I have to agree with Wavecrest, I prefer talking about the original. I have a feeling season eight will spark a resurgence of that type of discussion, at least I hope so. In the meantime, maybe I'll rewatch a few season seven episodes, just so I'll have something to post about.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 10:04:15 (PST)
"Well, let's hope it's not as crappy as Knight Rider, Charlies Angels, TJ Hooker, do I need to go on?" - Whoah, whoah, whoah, whoa, Big H! Hold on a second. Knight Rider was vintage 80s TV show - 80s at its absolute best! Unless you're talking about the remake. Same with Charlie's Angels - classic 70s! Unless you're talking about the movie remake. As for T.J Hooker - again another 80s classic from THE SHAT! And as for remakes there haven't been any. Bottom line - if the new Five-0 is even 1/4 as good as those aforementioned shows (yes they were cheesy, but in a good way) then that'll be something remarkable.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:54:32 (PST)
Re: "If you go to that Parker Ranch website you'll see the snow-capped mountains in the background." - - Just when I had dreams of selling my winter coat and moving to Hawai`i. Shucks! No fair! LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart and winter coat will be going to, HI - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:44:24 (PST)
"It's just another crappy TV show which will soon be forgotten." Well, let's hope it's not as crappy as Knight Rider, Charlies Angels, TJ Hooker, do I need to go on? We've really got to have a 2.0 that we can stomach regardless of how much it stimulates the Hawaiian eco...
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:11:44 (PST)
"aaah c'mon people. It is a TV show. it will not upon its first appearance make all your dvd and vhs copies of the old H50 go up in smoke a la Mission Impossible." -- couldn't have said it better myself, Kimo. To be honest I don't like remakes/reboots of any kind - I believe everything has a proper place and time in the order of things. And to somehow recapture all that is a fool's errand. I was even against this remakes when Ed Bernero was on-board. But heck, if it'll help the Hawaiian economy then shoot... why not? And I might even tune in from time to time to at least check out the scenery/locales that I've learned so well from my last trip there back in '08. So yeah, at the end of the day it's just a show. It will never replace the original in any way, shape, or form. And it certainly won't cause our DVDs to go up in smoke... POOF! From what I see here I can almost picture some of you guys/gals pacing back and forth wearing a hole in the carpet out of all this angst. Relax folks. It's just another crappy TV show which will soon be forgotten. And it will air whether we like it or not. Yeah, I know.. I sound pessimistic. But c'est la vie...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 08:46:25 (PST)
So I guess "We Hang Our Own" is yet another eppie that was filmed on the Big Island. If you go to that Parker Ranch website you'll see the snow-capped mountains in the background. Definitely NOT Oahu!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 08:35:56 (PST)
I'm hoping there will be discussion on the guestbook when the eighth season Region 1 DVD boxset is released in six weeks time, as at the moment the new Hawaii Five-O is dominating the discussion.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 07:45:06 (PST)
CORRECTION: DMS is the curator at the James MacArthur Fan-Official Discussion List Site.

Also, as I previously posted, he was asked the following:

> Ok, i have to ask, is Jim in it, in anyway??? As a guest even?

No, at least not as things stand now.

> Did Jim like the script too?

Yes, very much.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 07:25:19 (PST)

This is what was just posted on the "Hawaii Five-O Fan Club." I believe DMS is the administrator of the site and had an opportunity to read the pilot script of the new show. For those really die-hard, heels-dug-in fans of the old show, this won't make any difference to them. But for those who are at least willing to be open to the new show, it is an interesting read.

_____________________

Re: "New" new Five-0
Posted by: "mtboy11@aol.com" mtboy11@aol.com
Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:57 pm (PST)

That's pretty cool that you were able to see the script. When you say you think they finally got it right, can you be a little more specific? In what ways? Characterization? Scenery? Action? Plotting? Thanks!

PS...was that casting call sheet with the character descriptions accurate, or BS? I'm referring to the one that's been circulating on the web. Mr. Mike recently posted it on his Five-0 blog.

Thanks,
Jeff

_____________________

In a message dated 1/27/2010 8:56:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, curator@jamesmacarthur.com writes:

Hey, folks:

I was lucky enough to see the script for the new show this past weekend. I don't want to give anything away, but since there's been so much speculation about what's happening, I thought I'd post that this time I think they finally got it right.

This isn't "our" Five-0, but there's a lot that us old-time fans will like, and also a lot that new viewers can enjoy. There was nothing that really upset or annoyed me (unlike other remake scripts/story treatments I've seen). I'm a tough audience and was prepared to hate the script, but I just couldn't It's that good.

I sincerely hope this one gets filmed and that we all get to see it. I think it's gonna be a helluva good ride and it has a genuinely good chance of becoming a new series.

dms

P.S. And no, this is not Hawaii Five-0: The Next Generation!

_____________________

Re: "New" new Five-0
Posted by: "dmsvoltaire" curator@jamesmacarthur.com dmsvoltaire
Tue Feb 2, 2010 8:13 pm (PST)

--- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, mtboy11@... wrote:
>
> That's pretty cool that you were able to see the script. When you say you
> think they finally got it right, can you be a little more specific? In
> what ways? Characterization? Scenery? Action? Plotting? Thanks!

All of the above. I liked the way the characters interacted with each other most of all. As I said before, it's not precisely the way we fondly remember, but it has a very similar feel. For example, there is real humor. Not heavy-handed, pandering, obvious, plodding (or -- God forbid - gross-out) humor, but genuinely amusing, spontaneous, situation- and character-appropriate humor. This is not a comedy or a parody, not by any stretch, and I never actually laughed out loud, but there were several spots that made me chuckle or smile. There were many places where I just had to go right back and re-read a scene immediately because I wanted to savor the delight it brought to this old fan. I could really *see* some of this stuff. It was the kind of stuff real people do in real situations. It reminded me a lot of the character interaction we so enjoyed in the first few years of the original series.
> PS...was that casting call sheet with the character descriptions accurate,
> or BS? I'm referring to the one that's been circulating on the web. Mr.
> Mike recently posted it on his Five-0 blog.

It's very accurate, in some cases word for word right out of the script. But again, I have to caution, it's far from the whole story. I don't know where it came from, but it is the real deal, albeit a mere hint of the script itself.

To answer two other questions posed here by other members (because I'm too lazy to go back and answer each post individually):

These are recharacterizations of Steve, Danno, Chin, Kono, the Governor (and a few more). This version changes some things about the characters themselves, but it doesn't change the premise of the actual show. Maybe that's why I like it so much. It's not any one individual component, but the sum of them, that makes it work. The balance among all the elements feels right. Just like the original.

Oh, and there is no Wo Fat this time around (at least not in the pilot). There is a powerful villain (of course), but, like all the other characters, he's not "our" Wo Fat. And he has a different name and country of origin, too .

dms

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 06:52:57 (PST)

Yes, KD. The Farraday Ranch in "We Hang Our Own" is a thinly disguised version of the Parker Ranch. I don't know if it is actually as large as the Farraday Ranch was said to be ("the largest ranch in the world at 200,000 acres"), but I know it is very large. It is located in the Waimea/Kamuela (northwest/north-central) part of the island.

For more information, check out http://parkerranch.com/Parker-Ranch/160/about-the-ranch
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 04:43:49 (PST)

"What a riot it would be if this bunch ever met in person. ROFL" we would be throwin maitais at each other as fast as we'd be drinkin' em! ROTFLMDAO
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 23:52:10 (PST)

"a ranch was shown.'
aaahahahaaaha!
"a ranch"
hmmm.. "Lord, what fools these mortals be!"
(A Midsummer's Night's Delirium of Moku O Keawe)

can ya try;
"THE ranch"... in the future. thanx. much obilged.
Kimo
the drunk, leading the blind. oh, what a mess... - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 23:14:59 (PST)

"That is a great example of what I had been talking about, about male-female. Because I always found Hawaii Five O to be an exceptionally male show, ..."

The quote belongs to Ed Bernero from the 'Terrifying TV' interview on Deadline.com Jan 06, 2010
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 22:42:15 (PST)

Re: "...Nota Bene, Rick..."

Spot on, H50 1.0 Forever.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 22:20:37 (PST)

In "we hang our own", which i saw this morning to detox from the new Five-O; a ranch was shown. I would like to know if anybody has any idea where that is exactly and is it still there? Most likely it has been torn down if it is a victim of the alarming trend to bulldoze,tear down and build malls.
Kimo? KD MCG

Hawaii, five six,seven,eight - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 21:03:02 (PST)
hahahahahah @ Chris.....nope but i haven't laughed this hard in a while...his agent should work this hard!!!

I just like the guy and feel he would be better
KD
i, am not Casper the Ghost either! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 20:51:08 (PST)

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I have to wonder, is KD McGarrett really Casper van Diem? Casper is sometimes spelled with a K, and the D speaks for itself. If not, he should definitely see about getting himself on the guy's payroll, hell, van Diem's press agent probably doesn't work that hard.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 19:48:42 (PST)
Lively day on the guestbook. What a riot it would be if this bunch ever met in person. ROFL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 17:55:05 (PST)
I believe I opened that can all by myself. (and I stand by my comments)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 17:10:48 (PST)
Ok guys, you did open a can of worms. Women other than those who post in the guestbook do enjoy (read love) Hawaii Five-0 1.0, and not just for McGarrett being a man's man. McG (Jack Lord)was a big draw, the stories were good, often there were real life stories being presented in a fictional format, sometimes morals were taught, and wonderful Hawaii scenery was showcased.

Kimo, you're right about the show being a draw for tourists. My mother and I made our first trip to Hawaii in 2008 because we wanted to see the beautiful scenery we were seeing on the 5-0 1.0 DVDs; 40-year-old TV shows can still draw tourists. We visited several sites shown on 5-0 and went to the Kahala Mall to see the Jack Lord memorial. We stayed at the Ilikai but didn't get to visit "the" penthouse. I have some beautiful photos and memories. We're hoping to visit again this year. I hope you can get something set up to showcase Hawaiian crafts and talent at the Ilikai/or somewhere. I understand your desire for the 2.0 show to offer employment opportunities We'll hope that it does. Aloha and Mahalo!
50 lighthouse
Huntington, WV USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 16:55:55 (PST)

exceptions yea there were a couple that required terrain very different from Oahu.
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:55:59 (PST)
Kimo, re: my statement, "I personally enjoyed 1.0 episodes that ventured to Maui and the Big Island. Did we see any other islands?" and your response, "You didn't even see those two!" - - Well, what about "Paniolo" and "A Hawaiian Nightmare"? Weren't they filmed on Maui and Big Island, respectively? If not, where were they filmed? I haven't seen any place on O`ahu that remotely resembles the scenes shown in "Nightmare," and the mountains are far steeper in "Paniolo" than I saw on O`ahu. Could you tell us where those episodes were filmed?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:46:58 (PST)
"they didn't showcase any of the outer islands in the old original series." Exactly my point. Isn't Hawaii the state comprised of ALL of the islands, not just Oahu? I find it unfathomable that all crimes (worthy of Five-O's attention)would occur only there. And I'm not preaching for showcasing the other islands "all the time," if the budget is truly your concern, Kimo. All I'm saying is...once in a blue moon would be nice departure for the new series.
Big H
the world can't, revolve around OAHU?!?! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:43:22 (PST)
Maui
alternately pronounced
(mou`e)
(moue)
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:07:39 (PST)
KD, re: the article about the writers (I never can remember their names) signing with Fox, what does this mean? Were they just hired to write the Five-0 pilot and now they're out? Five-0 wasn't even mentioned in the article.

FOX has nabbed them; it appears they are free agents and are about to write for another network. Um...what happened to Fringe? Anyone ;) ? lol so watch for Orci Kurtzman to re-boot more of the classics...

I think Five-O 1.0 did appeal to guys and gals alike; MCG wasn't a misogynist-he was just a man's man,but he was very very sensitive. Alex appeals only to a certain female demographic and that is what it is about-NOT about Five-0 per se-that is a mere vehicle. Alex has a certain charm but it is not the ruggedness needed. Watched "We hang our own" Jack just stands head and shoulders above the rest of the cast-he has a certain charisma.

Alex needs a different vehicle in which he would definitely excel. i am not denying his acting prowess just that he will never be MCG.

Pam-as you're admin for Alex's sites, maybe you have a way of pointing him to this site..lol
KD
no, no dont do it alex! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:06:12 (PST)

", I personally enjoyed 1.0 episodes that ventured to Maui and the Big Island. Did we see any other islands? "

You didn't even see those two!
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:03:03 (PST)

"about the new show. Grave concerns" aaah c'mon people. It is a TV show. it will not upon its first appearance make all your dvd and vhs copies of the old H50 go up in smoke a la Mission Impossible. It is being created to add hopefully another hit to a major networks roster, and a lotta green in the CBS coffers. They are not creating this huge undertaking, this expensive series for the sake of coddling a small coterie of fans of a show thirty years old. They will do the best they feel they can do with this for their own ends. And really, that's all they need to do. Many people's careers are on the line here, and they all are working to make this the best THEY know, with the modern tools they have and knowing their contemporary target audience. They are attempting to please many groups here. Shareholders. Advertisers. Studio heads and execs... etc. And until "we here" become a vocal majority of any or all of the aforementioned groups, we can and should do no more than enjoy our old copies of the H50 1, and hope for the best. And join in the hope of all us here in Hawai'i that it; 1; represents Hawai'i in a pretty decent light, 2. Moreso, it does shoot here and it is a long running show, thereby keeping many talented locals gainfully employed as well as retaining a fabulous spotlight on Hawai'i to the delight of millions aroud the world who just may be trying to decide upon a vacation destination. Because those are the only "grave concerns" we here are occupied with.
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:01:15 (PST)
Mahalo, Kimo, for the instructions for ending correspondence properly.

Re: not filming on other islands, although I understand the concerns with cost and time, I personally enjoyed 1.0 episodes that ventured to Maui and the Big Island. Did we see any other islands? Some time back, someone mentioned Kaua`i. In which episode was it featured?

While we're at it, Kimo, would you please tell me the proper way to write and pronounce "Maui"? First, is there an okina between the u and the i? Second, is it pronounced "mow-ee" or "mah-wee"? Mahalo!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:50:26 (PST)

I know what you're saying, Rick. I just couldn't resist. The 1.0 guys were just so-o-o cute. This is the sad part about the Web: You couldn't see that I was laughing the whole time I wrote that - but I was! And you're right about the new show. Grave concerns here, too. I guess it comes down to wait-and-see.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:41:38 (PST)
Hfive0onepoint0forever: I acknowledged some women like the original. That's not the point. The point is the new show, if skewed to the female viewer. And the casting of Alex O along with the Ed Bernero interview tells me that it probably is. That the new show will not be anything like the original. I don't think I'm going very far out on a limb with that statement. ...you keep telling yourself you're not coming back to this page?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:21:17 (PST)
"if they do film it in Hawaii, I hope they get off of Oahu more often. Let's see some more of the other islands!!" Why? it's not a national geographic travelogue to any degree They are not in the business of showing other locales, just using Oahu's locales as b.g. for the Hawaii action. That move would cause added unnecessary expense to the budget and add more time to the very tight shooting schedule. No. They will not have any want or need to do that. It is wholly unnecessary. ""original" but keep the spirit of the old," they didn't showcase any of the outer islands in the old original series They sure wouldn't need to now, for no reason.
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:18:26 (PST)
"He's got a hitch to his getalong that just won't stop." da heck?!

"Shall I continue, gentlemen?"

H1F, the proper way for a haole to end a post is usually "mahalo"
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:16:56 (PST)

Meaning no disrespect, Mike, but your ZIP codes are getting me down.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in HI, but my ZIP code isn't in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:12:03 (PST)
Re: Big H's statement, "There are soooo many ways they can make this show "original" but keep the spirit of the old, if they just think about it...."

I think you're right. The question is will they take the time and make the effort? After all, it's a whole (what?) 75 miles to Maui? I hope McGarrett's wearing a parachute. I'm not sure this series is going to get him there.

Practice your backstroke, McGarrett.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:11:09 (PST)

RICK, RICK, RICK.....You've opened a can of worms here! H50 10 Forever...couldn't have said it any better!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:07:37 (PST)
KD, re: the article about the writers (I never can remember their names) signing with Fox, what does this mean? Were they just hired to write the Five-0 pilot and now they're out? Five-0 wasn't even mentioned in the article.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:06:04 (PST)
RICK posts: "I know there is a group of women that post here who are passionate Five-0 fans. But outside of this guestbook I believe female fans are in the minority."

Huh?? In the minority where??
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:04:12 (PST)

Gee, Rick! I keep saying I'm not coming back to this page. Then, I do and read something like you wrote: "The original Hawaii Five-0 1968 which is the reason I visit this site, is a guys show." Well, here's my response: Nota Bene, Rick! Ya wanna bet? Women like Five-0, too, for some of the same reasons you guys like it. But not for all the same reasons. Without even delving into the beauty of Hawai`i and the challenging mysteries, let's talk about the characters.

Some of the details you guys might have missed are (1) Kono was a teddy bear. If he new Kono isn't a teddy bear, the show's going to have a lot of marks against it right off. (2) Ben had bedroom eyes. Oh, yeah! (3) Chin Ho reminded me of my uncle. I'll bet he took gifts of Chia Pets and sea monkeys to his young nieces and nephews, too! (4) Danno was just plain old-fashioned boyishly cute! (5) Gov Jameson was everyone's ideal of what an elected official should be. Like McGarrett, he stood up for his principles. Besides, I like his infectious grin. (6) Saving the best for last (and you knew I would get around to him), Steve McGarrett is every woman's ideal man. He's strong and intelligent, on the one hand, yet sensitive and vulnerable, on the other hand. He's got those baby-blue eyes and a shock of hair that insists on falling down over his forehead. He's got a hitch to his getalong that just won't stop. Shall I continue, gentlemen?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:00:31 (PST)

msI couldn't wait for the commercial DVDs, so I bought a complete series set from iOffer.com. I am very pleased with this set, as the prints used are network quality. Oh, and that 'missing' Season 2 episode is there, too. The set also contains the pilot in its original movie form, not the renamed "cocoon" two-parter. CBS makes almost pure profit from the DVD sales, since there are no cast members (but one) to share the revenue with. However, I'm glad the sets are selling briskly.
Richard Perez
Norton, MA United States - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 11:42:29 (PST)
Alex O is already "on the shelf" at CBS. They are paying him not to seek work elsewhere, and will use him before they go out and "buy" another actor. I believe that casting Alex O as McG was as much a financial decision as it was a creative one. And I think the decision was most definitely made by a female. Alex is, as Big H put it, a Hollywood pretty boy. Don't know about the rest of you gents, but I think Alex O has ZERO appeal as an ACTOR. And that's the problem. You see, men liked Jack Lord. I don't believe for a minute the same can be said for Alex O. Read the comments on that YouTube link that Kimo posted. Page after page of women getting the vapors. The new show cannot succeed with a female audience alone. If it did, that would mean they turned Five-0 into "ER" or some vampire romance drama. I know there is a group of women that post here who are passionate Five-0 fans. But outside of this guestbook I believe female fans are in the minority. The original Hawaii Five-0 1968 which is the reason I visit this site, is a guys show. And it is unlikely that the new Five-0 will even remotely resemble the original. They just don't make TV shows like that anymore.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 11:27:35 (PST)
http://screenrant.com/kurtzman-orci-development-deal-fox-tv-benk-43854/ They are annoying me now they are rampant everywhere..
KDMCG
no, noN nah - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 11:08:57 (PST)
I just watched 1.0 and I have decided that i won't be watching the new version. Maybe the pilot out of curiosity, but since it is likened to Miami Vice it doesn't interest me. BIGH- MCg wishes he was in Maui!!! lol
KDMCG
Hawaii, thats a no no! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 10:43:09 (PST)
Kimo says."I don't think the 'powers that be' would choose Alex if they didn't think he could convey what the script calls for." I personally think the "powers that be" are going to write a little more romance into McG's life this time around, ergo they pegged this Alex O for the role (a Hollywood pretty boy). I think the CBS powers realized awhile back that no matter who they cast for McG, they weren't going to please all the H50 purists. Let's face it, we all have our fav to be the new McG. Bottom line for me is....if they film this thing in Hawaii (as opposed to the backside of Puerto Rico or Tahiti), then I'm gonna watch it, even if it's horrible. And if they do film it in Hawaii, I hope they get off of Oahu more often. Let's see some more of the other islands!!! There are soooo many ways they can make this show "original" but keep the spirit of the old, if they just think about it....
Big H
Catch a plane to , Maui, McG!!! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 09:26:59 (PST)
i still think this guy would do a better job...

http://bit.ly/a0BQY5
KDMCG listen, up cbs! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 07:22:30 (PST)

Kimo-these covers seem like they are hurriedly put together. There is no care or attention lavished. As we once discussed a long time ago, photoshop and other programs allow much more creativity than this.

Maybe they should ask fans for input. Oops that would be sacrilege hahah
KDMCG
Hawaii, covers suck - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 06:20:35 (PST)

Gawd. season 8 Steveo doesn't even look like him. More like a double or a stand in.
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 22:19:03 (PST)
http://tiny.cc/viDVp Enjoy
KDMCG
Hawaii, Five i dont know! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:53:59 (PST)
PAM...thanks for your post. I think you made some very valid points. Jack Lord will NEVER be replaced. I think it would be a disservice to the show for someone to try to imitate him in any way. Alex would do well to take the heart of the character and be respectful to the character's history. In our excitement about a remake proposed by Ed Bernero, I think we all had an idea of what that show would be like. And then we were hit with a whole different direction. It's jarring.

Like most of us here, we are not entirely familiar with Alex O'Loughlin or his work. He seems far younger than the actor we thought would portray McGarrett. Having said that, I think KIMO was spot on when he posted the following: He might do after all.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLKKUNJsFZo Just bever seen him in anything that I can remember.....

I also think that KIMO was right he wrote: We must pull out all the stops for this one. IF.. anyone out there has one iota of care for Hawai'i, please support the efforts of any production that brings Hawai'i into the limelight.

I was not happy at all when I saw the character breakdowns because it sounded like a different set of characters who just happened to have the names of the Five-O staff. And I'm still trying to wrap my head around what they are going for. But without having seen ANY footage or any further information, it's hard to make a judgment about what will be. I say let's give the show a chance.
Barbara Chicago, IL USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:47:13 (PST)

To Mike...I was kidding. (See I need the edit again!)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:44:20 (PST)
...I was kidding.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:42:31 (PST)
@RICK at least they may bag another for Five-0
KDMCG
Hawaii, no no - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:40:20 (PST)
Pam wrote a wonderfully balanced comment. I have to say I have no personal issues with alex. I just think CBS is betraying the memory of 1.0 that is all. I am sure Alex would be proactive in maintaining quality, but my concerns are that this show will just be a vehicle for him and that in itself may not be a wise choice. He would have his own interpretation of Mcgarrett, but why as McGarrett and why not somebody new? This is something I just don't understand.
KDMCG
I , m confused - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:37:20 (PST)
Both covers of Season 8:

http://www.customaniacs.org/forum/tv-show-scanned-covers/85009-hawaii-five-0-season-8-a.html
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:34:03 (PST)
***THIS*** How's that edit feature coming? [See comment for Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 17:31:27 (PST)]
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:23:11 (PST)
The should help calm everyone's nerves
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2010/02/01/2010-02-01_transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen_tops_razzies_nominations_as_worst_flick.html
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:12:41 (PST)
I'll admit I'm prejudiced; I've been a fan of Alex O'Loughlin's for several years now. I adored Jack Lord, watched "Hawaii 5-0" live (I'm 53 years old) and I will tell you this much: I would not want any actor to ruin the memories I have of this show. I'm very familiar with Alex' work, on several of his sites as Admin and mod, and I've seen the dedication he puts to a role, no matter how network politics bog it down.

If Alex O'Loughlin becomes the new Steve McGarrett, he will not try to be the one and only Jack Lord; no one can replace him. But, he will be serious about the quality of the show. I understand the fear of turning Hawaii 5-0 into CSI: Hawaii, but it won't be Alex that allows that, it will be CBS if anything remotely goes that way. And man, I'd be standing right next to all of you protesting the hell out of it too.

But..it'll never be the original show. Jack Lord and the rest of the cast were one of a kind. The original was magic. No one will ever fill Lord's shoes as far as I'm concerned. He was McGarrett.
Pam (Gothmyst)
Tarzana, CA US - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 14:14:03 (PST)
You make VERY valid points, Kimo. Just don't let Honolulu become another NYC or Toronto (where NYC scenes sometimes are filmed) or...well, you get the idea. Keep Hawai`i Hawaiian - PLEASE! Put the culture before the camera. Don't let it be lost behind lines and scenes that could have been set anywhere.

1.0 had a good combination of shows set on every point between Hotel Street and Kahala. They even dared to step out and show the Hawaiian anger over haole business interests stepping in ("A Lion in the Streets"). Those are the things that are Hawai`i, for better and for worse, but you've got to show the whole spectrum if it is going to work. You've got to have the rich yahoo who wants to get richer ("The Odd Lot Caper"), and you've got to have the alcohol or drug addict (oh, give me the name of one).

I don't see today's shows going into that much detail. They're too interested in special effects and looking cool. I'm not trying to incur the wrath of CBS or anyone else. I'm just concerned that today's programming does not dig deeper. The philosophy today, both on camera and in real life, is "all show and forget about the go; if it happens, cool." Digging deeper takes effort; it doesn't just happen. A lot of work went into having 1.0 dig deeper, and even it did not bat 1.000.

Again, that's my two cents worth.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 13:45:02 (PST)
"Re: "The plot says craggy and tenacious. He isn't craggy." . . . I agree. He's certainly not. "
If the script calls for it, maybe we see Alex actually IS.. an "actor" and he conveys craggy and tenacious pretty well for the purpose. We didn't see him craggy and tenacious before cuz maybe the scripts didn't call for it... I don't think the 'powers that be' would choose Alex if they didn't think he could convey what the script calls for.
I say give H50 redux a chance to be it's own animal. Of course, we can't replace the original H50. Of course, that is not its job. So why shoot this effort down? Think of it this way. There is a possibility the new series will also bring a swarm of adherents to appreciate the original who didn't know of it or never had much interest. Then this web page here gets an influx of visitors, and sales of the old series sees an upsurge...
We need the series. Any series for that matter. But this one is active and we here want to feed the efforts. We see too many possible Hawai'i productions get shot down just as we think we are winning them, only to see another tropical/resort destination win, from a larger tax credit, or less emotional or political turmoil going on... whatever. We are losing LOST. We must pull out all the stops for this one. IF... anyone out there has one iota of care for Hawai'i, please support the efforts of any production that brings Hawai'i into the limelight.
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 12:53:58 (PST)
"will get employment as a result of the show. That is the only benefit i see."
as with the original H50, any series which keep Hawai'i in front of millions of viewers on a regular basis is fabulous advertising for our islands. As with H50 back then, "we couldn't buy that kind of advertising power". We are, whether we like it or not, a state of the union. We, whether we like it or not are fairly wholly dependent on the tourist dollar for our economic health here. The original H50 was instrumental for bringing in constant flow of visitors those 12 years and it is safe to assume, it still does, (albeit too a smaller degree of course.) . A new series would, as a side effect, perform the same function. Also, it would show other production companies; well Hawai'i must be an ok place to shoot, the tax credit must be substantial as they claim, so why don't we chance it too!" We all here are hoping that this series acts as a commercial for "paradise" to act as a vacation destination... and persuade other indie and major productions to choose to film here.
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 12:11:33 (PST)
"We went to all the time and trouble to write CBS... is so far ahead of us, already made all such decisions. Our efforts were wasted. "
whoa. back up. This is not a communal effort. CBS owns the rights to the show. I think I would be very careful treading in this manner. This kind of noblesse oblige attitude may do more harm than good if one is seeking "co-operation" from a major network. I'm not trying to be rude or arrogant, just anticipating the reaction any uh... "large organization" may have... "who are these spoiled people? They haven't any idea! We haven't released any footage and already we're the bad guys and we've done irreparable harm and no one will watch!"
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 11:59:02 (PST)
Re: "The plot says craggy and tenacious. He isn't craggy." . . . I agree. He's certainly not.

Jack Lord was - on both counts. In the 1950s, he auditioned to play Bo Decker in the Broadway production of "Bus Stop." He was turned down, because his face was "too lived in" to play the part a man who has not yet experienced the world. And why shouldn't it have been? He went to work at the age of 14!

But, then, who among today's actors fits the description?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 11:53:45 (PST)
I concur. Viewers don't matter anymore. Sad, but true. I would love to see a "people's network" where people matter.

Alex can not be Mcgarrett-unfortunately, might be career suicide again.The plot says craggy and tenacious. He isn't craggy. Jack Palance,Ray Barrett, Lloyd Bridges,Eastwood,Paul Schofield,Chuck Connors etc. That is the definition of craggy. Sorry, Alex is not. As somebody once remarked, don't know what goods Alex has on CBS, because must be pretty damning hahaha. He doesn't have chiseled looks and does not fit the character description.
KD
Hawaii, good luck for the economy! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 11:12:35 (PST)
KD, I'll tell you what's chewing on me right now. We went to all the time and trouble to write CBS and others to let them know how we envisioned the new show and our concerns about the rumors we were hearing. Then, we learned that CBS is so far ahead of us that they've already made all such decisions. Our efforts were wasted.

I know CBS is a very large organization, and I know they can't hope to please each and every person with an opinion, but this venture affects a lot of people. As you said, KD, it's employment for a lot of people in Hawai`i. If it succeeds, it is gainful employment. If it fails, it's just another temp job.

With a more open and receptive attitude, CBS just might find itself with a program that both pleases the loyal 1.0 viewers and provides steady employment for a lot of people for a nice, long time.

Don't tell me this is the way it's done today. I know it is, and it is pathetic in every segment of this sagging economy and sick society. Whatever happened to the old saw "Two heads are better than one"? It still holds true, whether people today want to admit it or not.

So, there's my two cents worth! Aloha!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 10:28:08 (PST)
Please read in reverse. Banter between the curator of James Macrthur's website and i.

Re: "New" new Five-0


I don't know why the sarcasm? "Isn't that a whole new ballgame"-actually no it
isn't. My point was simply that the plot needed more legs and tweaks and they
could have explained why Chin Ho was still alive. So no. i think you feel i am
on the attack and i am definitely not.

I had already left my comments. You do contradict yourself when you say no plans
for JM, because i do actually say "in the show." not the pilot.

And, that is all. It would be wonderful to see him as a villain or otherwise; I
respect JM as an actor and a great human being with a stellar acting repertoire
and attitude,but that doesn't mean i am not entitled to my thoughts hahah and I
don't have to watch...

Thanks for the wonderful input into all of this and again please believe me that
i have no axe to grind with anybody.

KD MCG

_______________________________________read this first___

--- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "dmsvoltaire" wrote:
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> --- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "kashcreative" wrote:
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> > The previous attempt could have worked if they did their homework and
re-wrote the script and re-worked the characters.
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> Gee, if they "did their homework," "rewrote the script," and "reworked the
characters," isn't that a whole new ballgame? What's left to "work"?
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> > I just hope Mr. Macarthur makes a cameo in the show.
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> There are no plans at this time for JM to have any connection with this
incarnation of the series. The pilot script, as it now stands, has nothing in it
that he could do. Moreover, as he has stated on numerous occasions, he doesn't
feel that he should participate in a new version of Five-0. It's his opinion
that it's time for new blood, time to move forward not backward. He is not
ruling out the possibility of participating in the future if something really
good comes along (maybe a juicy villain or something like that), but as of this
writing, there are no plans to include James MacArthur in this newest version of
the show.
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> dms
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KD MCG
Hawaii, Five .1.2.1.2..whatever! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 10:15:42 (PST)
I welcome the fact that people on the island will get employment as a result of the show. That is the only benefit i see.
KD MCG
Hawaii, Five O - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 10:08:44 (PST)
If 2.1 makes it through 12 episodes, it will come close to setting a record for remakes. Twelve seasons? It surely will have to be good, won't it, and we know how good!

Kimo, old boy, dial it back.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 08:59:40 (PST)
It seems Mr. O'Loughlin is the new Mcgarrett and that appears to have been the strategy all along by removing him from Moonlight; don't expect this series to run for 12 years I don't think i will be watching it anyway.
KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 no way! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 06:49:13 (PST)
"I started crying as I watched us descending to land at HNL" Only time I cried in Hawai'i was when we were ascending... to land! whootaaah!
Kimo
my heart and lungs and spleen, and kidneys and sandy luau feet are in HI, and have been for 50 years. - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 02:50:39 (PST)
bad or good, da new one, 'oia ana no
I will watch it. and work it. Not because it, to any degree presupposes it's a replacement for our old friend, but at the least, an homage. and at the most, a great revenue and attention generator for Hawai'i!
Kimo
ainokea, ainokea and ya know, I don't give a kukae - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 01:40:55 (PST)
"but they are riding on the coattails of something that was wildly successful." which is fairly irrelevant to them, since more to the point, their job is to create a new successful series. That makes the current advertisers happy, that appeals to the current demographics.
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 00:19:37 (PST)

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